Monday, February 16, 2009

AA Credit Spreads Blowout

Hello Folks!

Just a few quick notes tonight since the markets were closed. The credit markets are once again starting to unravel.

Credit spreads on AA debt have gone through the roof:


My Take:

Here we go again. As you can see, we have soared right by peak that was seen in November when the financial system practically fell apart. This chart tells me that any debt below AAA is all pretty much worthless.

From a macro point of view, it tells you that the bond market is once again nervous and cracks are beginning to reappear in the credit market.

AAA spreads have still behaved fairly well:

Final Take:

I suspect the government guarantees on a lot of AAA paper have allowed these spreads to remain relatively intact. Overall though, things generally don't look too rosy in the credit markets.

It will be interesting to see what Obama has to say on Wednesday. Word on the street is the banking losses and guarantees that the government is responsible for may be approaching $10 trillion. Its gonna take one hell of a "bad bank" to hold these type of losses. The sad reality here folks is the government does not know what to do in terms of fixing the problem because they can't afford to carry this type of debt load.

I think this is why you see Washington changing their minds every 3 days. There is no way to contain this type of damage. We simply cannot finance enough treasury sales to pay for this. Its an absolute disaster plain and simple.

The only answer is a total nationalization of the banking system. Most of this debt needs to be defaulted on and its going to be very painful. Many companies will evaporate overnight when the government realizes this debt problem is too large to contain.

Toto, We're Not in Kansas Anymore

Toto should consider himself to be lucky!. It appears the state of Kansas may be unable to make payroll next week:

"Kansas has suspended income tax refunds and may miss payroll this week as a partisan battle erupted Monday in the Statehouse over how to address the problem.

Republican legislative leaders demanded that Gov. Kathleen Sebelius cut the budget before they would agree to inter-governmental loans to fund state employee paychecks, as well as numerous other state payments.

But Democrats said the Republicans, who hold significant majorities in the Legislature, were trying to blackmail Sebelius, a Democrat, by threatening to shut down government."

Bottom Line:

Expect to see more and more of this as state funding begins to unravel. The states spent just like our HELOC loaded consumers during the debt bubble. Expect to see massive cuts in state budgets and programs as their tax receipts continue to dwindle. I didn't even mention the state pensions that are massively underfunded. I will save this one for another day.

The ES Futures have been down since Asia opened last night. The S&P currently sits at 811. This is 15 handles lower than the 826 close from Friday. We will likely open in the red tomorrow unless something big happens overnight.

Its all about Obama on Wednesday. Lets see what happens!

20 comments:

Banditfist said...

Real surprised that the futures has not reacted more to this information. What other info is out there that is balancing this out. Something is not right.

Avl Guy said...

Jeff, when will we see you on CNBC?

In the interim, this 5min CNN vid is my 1st glimpse of blogger Yves Smith...I agree with her 100% and she agrees with you, Jeff, on fixing the banks.
http://money.cnn.com/video/#/video/news/2009/02/11/news.yves.smith.bailout.cnnmoney

Ironic that today I felt compared to chide her blog for handing Obama a 'free pass' while she cuts-up only Geithner & Summer.

Jeff said...

Bandi

We are slowly bleeding off now. Futes now sitting at 809. We are back in the danger zone. Anything under 820 could trigger a selloff.

I think whats balancing things out is some surprise announcement by Obama around his mortgage/recovery plan.

I bet some traders are pretty scared to front run this short. Ther ehave been some bloody short coverings following news out of DC in the past.

I plan on taking some things down tomorrow. I will keep my commercial real estate trades on tho.

Jeff said...

Avl

I doubt I will be on TV anytime soon! I am just a little blogger trying to help spread the word.

Great video.

Thanks for sharing. Couldn't have said it better myself.

The one thing I would add is another reason why the leaders of these banks need to go because there is system longer trusted.

Confidence will not be restored until we can trust who is at the top.

Jeff said...

Just a heads up guys...

Something just blewup

Every currency just tanked versus the dollar. Futures just plunged.

Can't figure out what it is. Yikes.

Banditfist said...

Yep, currencies just went exponential. Those are some pretty looking charts....across the board.

Something is up. Think global.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jeff. Hope all is well.

Jeff said...

Joey

I was fine until I saw the currencies tonight.

Euro is down over 1% versus the dollar tonight!

Somthing just blewup.

Bandi:

Did you find anything on the wires?

I can't figure out what it is. Whatever happened could send us over the edge.

Banditfist said...

Only thing that I can see is this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=at7kh7wmpk_U&refer=home


Eastern Europe.

Anonymous said...

Jeff & All,

Here you go!
http://blog.donnaklinenow.com/?p=908

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=at7kh7wmpk_U&refer=home

Anonymous said...

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/

:17 CT

I do not know what is going on here, and I don't think I want to.

Someone, apparently someone in Asia, wants dollars. A LOT of dollars. There is a forced-liquidation event underway that is massive, it is against all asset classes and it is spreading.

It originated at approximately 7:15 CT this evening and originated out of Asia somewhere. All of the primary currency crosses got hit at once - Euro, Pound, Yen - all weakened dramatically against the dollar and it is still going on. The Asian stock markets got walloped at the same time in coordinated waves of forced selling.

At the same time the US futures markets got nailed as well, down some six handles on the /ES in a near-vertical drop. While this sounds "not that big" to move these markets in a coordinated fashion like this is a trillion-dollar enterprise - this is not some small company that went bankrupt, or even a large company.

There is no news coverage at the present time identifying the source of this but it is not small and contrary to some reports it is not "automatic selling"; this is forced liquidation.

Folks, if this translates into Eastern Europe where there are severe instabilities already brewing literally everything in the financial world could come apart "all at once."

The worse news is that if this happens Bernanke will have killed us (in the US) by extending those swap lines all over the planet during the last six months. These will become utterly uncollectable and they are massive, in the many hundreds of billions of dollars.

To those who are reading this, I hope if you're in the markets you are prepared for extreme levels of violence. You must expect that the authorities will try to arrest the destruction if they are able, but you must also be prepared for the possibility that we have reached a "critical mass" point beyond which "duck and cover" is the only winning strategy.

Unfortunately.

Jeff said...

Joey

Bingo

I think Donna got it.

I saw Denninger. That $25 trillion was discussed on Denninger as well

Holy crap! We are in deep trouble.

BAndi

I saw that too. If Europe goes poof we do as well because we are all so interconnected now.

Sigh. Looks like I will be up late tonight!

Jeff said...

Anyone short heading into tomorrow?

Anonymous said...

I'm a few small spreads going.

Jeff said...

Here is some more news

"Feb. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Austrian, Swedish and other banks with subsidiaries in eastern European may face rating downgrades as economies in the region deteriorate, according to Moody’s Investors Service.

East European banks, which are mainly subsidiaries of financial institutions such as Raiffeisen Zentralbank Oesterreich AG and Swedbank AB, are likely to come under “downward pressure” which may also weaken their parent companies, Moody’s wrote in a report released today in London.

Banks from Austria, Italy, France, Belgium, Germany and Sweden account for 84 percent of western European bank loans in eastern Europe. The region’s economies are weakening, with the International Monetary Fund already offering aid to Latvia, Hungary, Serbia and Ukraine. Bailouts may be extended to Bulgaria, Romania, Lithuania and Estonia as the global recession derails more banks, according to Capital Economics research.

“The downturn in eastern Europe will be more severe as a consequence of many countries’ dependence” on capital flows from west Europe banks, Moody’s analysts led by Reynold Leegerstee wrote in the report."


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7rstGPFeihs&refer=home

Avl Guy said...

Sh$t that was fast....I was reading about Europes $25 Trillion just 6 hours ago...I thought we'd have a few weeks B4 the SHTF!!

Jeff said...

Avl

I know!

I am not liking this one bit.

Not ready for TSTHTF tonight. I haven't hit the ATM yet!

I feel sick right now. Something ugly is going to come out in the news.

I wonder what it is. Looks like a massive liquidation?

Anonymous said...

Wow.

Feels like the USA is blindfolded and only knows some instrument, whether it's foot fist or bat is going to pound us in the balls.

I'm kicking myself in the balls for not buying more SRS and SKS two weeks back.

I'm thinking about going long Steelers PSLs.

Jeff said...

Flip

I like your steeler trade..lol

I covered everything in my trading account. I will have something up in an hour or so.

Anonymous said...

Jeff,

You covered your short positions in anticipating a dead cat bounce or simply to stay out of the sinking market?

Jeff