Friday, May 30, 2008

Housing Prices are Falling faster than during the Great Depression

Good Morning!

This was quite an eye opener this morning. This graph was put together based on the Case-Shiller Index which measures housing prices. As you can see, prices are falling faster than at any time during the Great Depression.



This was from the Economist. Here is the article in its entirety:

America's house prices are falling even faster than during the Great Depression


AS HOUSE prices in America continue their rapid descent, market-watchers are having to cast back ever further for gloomy comparisons. The latest S&P/Case-Shiller national house-price index, published this week, showed a slump of 14.1% in the year to the first quarter, the worst since the index began 20 years ago. Now Robert Shiller, an economist at Yale University and co-inventor of the index, has compiled a version that stretches back over a century. This shows that the latest fall in nominal prices is already much bigger than the 10.5% drop in 1932, the worst point of the Depression. And things are even worse than they look. In the deflationary 1930s house prices declined less in real terms. Today inflation is running at a brisk pace, so property prices have fallen by a staggering 18% in real terms over the past year.

Quick Take:

That 14% drop that was headlined this week in the news is even worse when you factor in inflation. The number then jumps up to 18%.

This will go down as the biggest housing bust in history and its still showing no signs of being over!

The CNBC Pump Monkeys and the April Consumer Spending Data

I was sickened this morning watching the pigmen trying to spin the April consumer numbers as a positive sign that the economy is bottoming. I find this network to be almost unwatchable now. Be very careful when you turn on this station. Its become nothing more than a pump machine for Wall St.

When you watch these Wall St. pros calling bottoms hour after hour on "bubblevision", take what they are saying like you would if you were looking at houses and listening to a realtor tell you "You need to buy now because prices will be going up!".

You would have thought consumers were spending like Paris Hilton at a shopping mall after listening to Squawk Box this morning. Here is the data from Bloomberg:

Some highlights or should I say lowlights:

"May 30 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. consumer spending slowed in April as income gains weakened, a sign the biggest part of the economy may be faltering.

The 0.2 percent rise in spending followed a 0.4 percent increase in March, the Commerce Department said today in Washington. Incomes grew 0.2 percent, bolstered in part by the government's tax rebates, and the Federal Reserve's preferred measure of inflation moderated.

Higher fuel costs, smaller wage gains and lower home values have shaken Americans' confidence, raising the odds that spending will keep slowing. Government tax rebates may only provide a temporary boost to economic growth in coming months."

My Take:

The thing we need to focus on here is when you adjust these numbers for inflation, we are getting poorer and poorer each month.

When incomes are growing at .2% and inflation is running at an annual rate of 4%, we are in the red each month. Some believe inflation is running much higher than the 4% thats now being thrown around.

Our government inflation numbers of the mid 2% range are not even worth discussing due to the fact they exclude food and energy. Its a useless number now in my opinion.

Dow Chemical reported a 40% increase in material costs which has forced them to raise prices by 20%. None of this bodes well for the consumer which is 70% of our economy.

There was very little data released on the economy today so I expect a sideways type trading session. Stocks opened slightly higher.

Until later!

5 comments:

Avl Guy said...

I've dramatically cut back on my CNBC viewing after the Bears Stearns Incident. My move freed up more time for my own analysis.

I think the CNBC & Wall Street spin-meisters are a curious mix...not all of them are willful liars, at least no more than we’d say our neighborhood preacher is a liar as they tell items of faith which we feel are unverifiable by science or logic, and are contradictory. There exists Apostles of Wall Street” and “Church of CNBC” who adhere to much faith-based communication. In 2008, it’s simply easier than in 1999 or 2005 to witness the evidence of ‘belief’ and 'faith' in “markets" and “capitalism”, in how markets move, and how it is all ‘explained’. Could it be that saying "the spending data shows the markets will get healthy and survive this" is not much different and no more condemnable than telling an ill person that "your skin glow is evidence that a higher power will not let you suffer and will heal you over time"?
With the latter, we may or may not say it’s based on ignorance, but we don’t ban such language; however, as a society we do advocate supplementing such words of belief with (western) medical intervention or access.
Jeff, I think blogs such as yours and Rubini's and others serve the latter purpose and will have to co-exist with the “Church of CNBC” and Apostles of Wall Street for the time being.

Jeff said...

AVL

I agree. I rarely watch CNBC anymore. I prefer Bloomberg and news outlets overseas like the Financial Times and the Telegraph.

Its amazing how different their takes can be on the same news story.

I will continue to blog, and attempt to take a different look at financial issues versus "bubblevision".

Thanks for the support!

Avl Guy said...

What did u think on my take differentiating 'believers on faith' and liars or those going on CNBC or blogging trying to manipulate stocks they have a long/short position on?

Jeff said...

AVL

I think there are different types of bloggers out there.

Some blogs blatantly talk their trading book, and many of them have never seen a bear market. Many of their beliefs I think are based on the faith of the market.

A lot of these bottom picker blogs buying financials are talking their book. it worked in 1998 during the long term capital fiasco and after the tech bubble burst.

I think the "liars" you see out there are the people on CNBC that also blog. Many can manipulate stocks in doing so.

They make money by people buying stocks so what they say is a fools game IMO. If investors stay in fixed income these people make nothing.

Most independent bloggers thatt sell stocks for a livingting their opinions.

I personally am mainly in fixed income along with some shorts as a hedge to go along with some long positions. I really can't get hurt by what the stock market does right now, so I am not here trying my trading book.

My goal is to educate people on the housing market because I have a lot of experience in this area, and I am seeing a lot of people buying and making bad decisions.

I also try to swerve as a counterbalance to the blowhards you hear on CNBC everyday. Many of these "experts" have never worked in a rough market and are lying in order to try to keep you in the markets so they can continue to make money.

The best way to invest in the market is to be diversified and shift your portfolio as we go through different cycles.

You overweight stocks in bull markets like this past one from 2003-2007. I was almost fully invested in equities during this period.

When the storms hit you got to play defense and overweight into fixed income until the cycle changes.

Thats how I see it AVL.

Jeff said...

My comment didn't fully translate onto my blog.

The independent bloggers out there that are selling stocks for a living can be dangerous because they have the same agenda the pigmen have. I take what they say with a grain of salt.

Some of these blogs are excellent and give great advice. However, if they are telling me to buy buy buy stocks. I usually never visit the site again.

I think you average blog where people are not involved with the markets but may have good connections with people inside the markets are trying to do the right thing.


You just have to trust your gut with who you read. I read many of the blogs that you shared with me before like Mish and a few others.