Tuesday, May 20, 2008

Morgan Stanley: 2-1/2 Year Downturn in the Financials?

The market is deteriorating rapidly this morning as the bad news is coming from all directions. Oil is soaring to $130/barrel. Boone Pickens now says oil is heading to $150/barrel. If oil goes to $150/barrel we are looking at $5 gas people! Thats a consumer killer!

The PPI came in hot hot hot:

"May 20 (Bloomberg) -- Prices paid to U.S. producers, excluding food and fuel, rose more than forecast in April, reflecting increases in automobile and furniture costs.

The 0.4 percent gain in so-called core prices was twice as big as anticipated and followed a 0.2 percent increase in March, the Labor Department said today in Washington. A drop in energy costs and unchanged food expenses held the total price measure to a 0.2 percent gain.

Soaring raw-material costs are likely to hurt profits as a slowing economy prevents companies from raising prices enough to cover expenses. A report last week showed prices paid by consumers rose less than forecast in April"

Quick Take:

Remember this number does not include food and energy. Imagine what it would have looked like if it did? Expect this trend to continue until we finally decide to protect the dollar. You can guarantee that interest rates are going higher very soon if inflation gets out of control.

Every other central bank is raising rates in the world, and we eventually will be forced to do the same. You can kiss those low rate mortgages goodbye when this starts. Housing prices will then move lower to make up for higher rates. Whoa! Its a bad spiral we are stuck in ladies and gentleman.


So how bad is this financial crisis versus the ones we have seen in the past 20+ years?

Look at the chart below. Morgan Stanley is predicting a 2-1/2 year downturn in the financials. This is another must read from The Economist. There are too many things to highlight so take a look. You will understand why this is going to be such a rough period economically.


Bottom Line:

Pretty scary stuff eh? We are basically looking at a downturn that's going to last almost twice as long as the Dotcom bubble that burst. If you recall we had a 50% decline in the S&P 500 during the last downturn.

This is far from being over. Don't forget, after the acute phase of this is over, we still have the hangover to recover from. The severe part of this downturn is going to last right into 2010. Housing and the rest of the economy will not recover for years after that.


4 comments:

James B said...

Anyone who thinks that $4/gallon is expensive is in for a rude awakening. These prices are here to stay.

What's really interesting - and you've continually done a great job on this blog highlighting it - is the conspiracy of various, usually disparate factors that are converging to form the perfect economic storm. Many pessimists are comparing it to the Great Depression, but I would venture to say we've never seen anything like this, and your chart from The Economist would back that up.

When you blend the dollar disaster, oil prices, general global demand, the crazy Fed, and excessive debt (on top of the ludicrously expensive war we're in) it starts to become apparent that there's absolutely no way out without unprecedented collapse.

I'm pleased to report that I rebalanced my entire 401K yesterday to cash and foreign currency, since absolutely *nothing* looks good out there. Every fund available has had a catastrophic year (even the ones with bold-sounding names like 'The Real Return Fund', lol), so take the 'Cash is King' mantra and put it to work.

Btw, I continue to be amazed some of the sheer s**t I hear about inflation...

Jeff said...

Minton

I am right there with you. I aam about 80% treasuries and PIMCO bonds along with a few long and short positions.

Cash is king in this hurricane!

Anonymous said...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-5kz8sUT94

It seems that rally after preliminary plunge (Nov07-Jan08) is now over and ... CASH IS KING! ;)

... but of course you never know, this is just market ;).

Jeff said...

Teddy

I have been fooled before and I will be again. All you can do is stick to a thesis and invest accordingly!